Snail mail EGTB trading
Snail mail EGTB trading
I have been trying to get a full set.
E-Mule is not an option for me.
I have a 2 TB external drive with 450 gigs of tablebases and want the rest.
Would anyone with a full set be willing to share??
I will pay all expenses plus
E-Mule is not an option for me.
I have a 2 TB external drive with 450 gigs of tablebases and want the rest.
Would anyone with a full set be willing to share??
I will pay all expenses plus
Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
The whole EGTB project suffers if no one wants to share or there isn't a trading mechanism set up.
External drives larger than a terabyte have becomes reasonable in price
Six man EGTB's still fit on one drive and this is the way to go.
Anyone wishing to share will not be disappointed. I will pay all expenses and toss in some unspecified goodies
External drives larger than a terabyte have becomes reasonable in price
Six man EGTB's still fit on one drive and this is the way to go.
Anyone wishing to share will not be disappointed. I will pay all expenses and toss in some unspecified goodies
Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
Should I get a full set, I promise that I will share in a similar fashion.
Without snail mail trading, the whole project suffers.
Without snail mail trading, the whole project suffers.
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
Hi Ken! There is a chance I will try to recollect the complete 6-men tablebase set this year. If successful, I will be happy to share with you.
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
Thank you Kirill,
I use them on a daily basis and using the ones online slows me to a crawl.
I use them on a daily basis and using the ones online slows me to a crawl.
Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
One of the objectives of this forum is to make the complete set of tablebases available.
This requires cooperation, but now that one terabyte hard drives cost about a hundred dollars, it is very possible.
This requires cooperation, but now that one terabyte hard drives cost about a hundred dollars, it is very possible.
Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
Since my broadband was upgraded I have started downloading the 6-men in anger. 1 month ago I had 60gb's worth and that had taken me months over a few years. Now in a few weeks I have 695GB. By the end of August I should have the complete 6-men assuming my ISP does not close my account - I am way beyond their definition of reasonable usage
Once I have a verified set I will make available the 6-men tbs on disk for the cost of the disk + postage.
Watch this space
Shaun
P.S. I am UK based so this probably limits distribution to UK/Europe?
Once I have a verified set I will make available the 6-men tbs on disk for the cost of the disk + postage.
Watch this space
Shaun
P.S. I am UK based so this probably limits distribution to UK/Europe?
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
European ISP's are less restrictive than those in the United States.
I can download 12 gigs per month and upload 3 gigs.
This explains why e-mule is not an option for me.
I am more than happy to pay any costs involved and I suspect others are too.
I can download 12 gigs per month and upload 3 gigs.
This explains why e-mule is not an option for me.
I am more than happy to pay any costs involved and I suspect others are too.
Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
Well so far I have not had any complaints from my ISP.
The ISP contracts in the UK(and I am sure everywhere else too) vary tremendously, some are unlimited (but with the right to decide what is reasonable) others specify a cap.
I currently have 3 ISPs , cable 10Mb/s max download speed / unlimited usage, ADSL 2Mb/s max download speed and 2GB monthly usage allowance, plus a mobile broadband package with significantly worse speed and an even smaller usage limit, however it means I can access the net from anywhere I can get a mobile signal.
Anyway back to the downloads – I now have approximately 800GB downloaded, once I have the complete set and it is validated I will look at postage options....
Shaun
The ISP contracts in the UK(and I am sure everywhere else too) vary tremendously, some are unlimited (but with the right to decide what is reasonable) others specify a cap.
I currently have 3 ISPs , cable 10Mb/s max download speed / unlimited usage, ADSL 2Mb/s max download speed and 2GB monthly usage allowance, plus a mobile broadband package with significantly worse speed and an even smaller usage limit, however it means I can access the net from anywhere I can get a mobile signal.
Anyway back to the downloads – I now have approximately 800GB downloaded, once I have the complete set and it is validated I will look at postage options....
Shaun
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
Super
We can trade addresses by private message and I can pay you by PayPal.
We can trade addresses by private message and I can pay you by PayPal.
Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
I would like to get a copy of the disks as well. Should I contact you by email?
Mark S.
Mark S.
Michigan, USA
Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
MarkS wrote:I would like to get a copy of the disks as well. Should I contact you by email?
Mark S.
The files when done will be too large to fit on DVD's
You will have to buy an external hard drive over 1 terabyte and have the files mirrored.
This wasn't possible before, but it is now.
I have a 2 terabyte drive ready to mail to Shaun when he is done downloading.
Once I have them, I will be happy to do the same for anyone who asks and pays postage.
Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
I think I have all the 6 men TB's - and should be able to start loading them up on 1.5TB drives for mailing
However I have very little time at the moment to search about so I am going to be lazy and ask here:
What is the easiest way to verify the 6 men TB's?
Thanks
Shaun
P.S. Once we have a few copies about we can reduce mail costs/time by avoiding international shipping, people willing to help distribute will get priority from me.
However I have very little time at the moment to search about so I am going to be lazy and ask here:
What is the easiest way to verify the 6 men TB's?
Thanks
Shaun
P.S. Once we have a few copies about we can reduce mail costs/time by avoiding international shipping, people willing to help distribute will get priority from me.
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
Run the md5sum against the md5 files from the EGTB sharing page.Shaun Brewer wrote:What is the easiest way to verify the 6 men TB's?
Direct links to the md5 files:
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
Kirill,Kirill Kryukov wrote:Run the md5sum against the md5 files from the EGTB sharing page.Shaun Brewer wrote:What is the easiest way to verify the 6 men TB's?
Direct links to the md5 files:
sorry I know I am being lazy and could find the answer with a bit of searching.... but can you point me at a trusted exe to calculate the sum and check against the files.
I thought there was and engine Baron? that could verify the TBs? Do I have the right program was that only 5 men?
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
The one from GnuWin32 CoreUtils package should be fine.Shaun Brewer wrote:Kirill,
sorry I know I am being lazy and could find the answer with a bit of searching.... but can you point me at a trusted exe to calculate the sum and check against the files.
Sorry, no idea. Wilhelm was able to verify the 6-men files, if I remember correctly.Shaun Brewer wrote:I thought there was and engine Baron? that could verify the TBs? Do I have the right program was that only 5 men?
Shaun
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
Okay using md5sum looks time consuming its going to take a while to even read the instructions:
http://horizonchess.com/FAQ/Winboard/md5.html
Looks like Wilhelm is what I need (download link broken).
Does anyone have the latest version - freeeware so no legal reasons not to attach here, from Kirill's notes I need version 1.5 or newer, lets hope it runs on Vista
http://horizonchess.com/FAQ/Winboard/md5.html
Looks like Wilhelm is what I need (download link broken).
Does anyone have the latest version - freeeware so no legal reasons not to attach here, from Kirill's notes I need version 1.5 or newer, lets hope it runs on Vista
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
md5sum is the easiest possible way. Step by step:
1. Put .md5 files into the directory where you keep the tablebases.
2. Copy the md5sum.exe into the same directory (also you can put it into any directory included in %PATH%)
3. Run command: "md5sum.exe -c name-of-md5-file >result-file". For example, "md5sum.exe -c all-42.md5 >all-42.md5.result".
4. Examine the result file to see if all files are OK, or if there are any missing files or any not matching signatures.
1. Put .md5 files into the directory where you keep the tablebases.
2. Copy the md5sum.exe into the same directory (also you can put it into any directory included in %PATH%)
3. Run command: "md5sum.exe -c name-of-md5-file >result-file". For example, "md5sum.exe -c all-42.md5 >all-42.md5.result".
4. Examine the result file to see if all files are OK, or if there are any missing files or any not matching signatures.
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
Wilhelm does not seem to run on Vista 64-bit not really sure as all the messages were in German....
I need to look for an alternate md5sum.exe or find what dlls are missing as it will not run...
Will try later unfortunately I really do not have time to sort this at the moment.
Shaun
I need to look for an alternate md5sum.exe or find what dlls are missing as it will not run...
Will try later unfortunately I really do not have time to sort this at the moment.
Shaun
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
Oh I see. You probably need the dependencies from the same page.Shaun Brewer wrote:I need to look for an alternate md5sum.exe or find what dlls are missing as it will not run...
Will try later unfortunately I really do not have time to sort this at the moment.
Shaun
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
I did it with WilhelmShaun Brewer wrote:What is the easiest way to verify the 6 men TB's?
No problem. The md5 are included in the program.
Besides, anybody really interested in EGTBs should have Wilhelm
Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
This forum does not notify you when you get a private message.
Shaun, you have a private message.
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
Okay I have md5sum running not sure if it working or at least I hope it is not!!!
It has highlighted that I seem to have 1 file missing, however is fails all the files I have downloaded???
I will test them on a position later any other thoughts?
Shaun
It has highlighted that I seem to have 1 file missing, however is fails all the files I have downloaded???
I will test them on a position later any other thoughts?
Shaun
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Re: Snail mail EGTB trading
I have downloaded the missing TB so now have the complete set, although md5sum shows them ALL as failed?
I installed them in the Shredder GUI and tested them on a couple of positions both found the mate from the TB (checked the result against the online version and it was correct). The mates were not found without the 6-men so for those positions my 6men TBs are fine???
Does anyone know why md5sum is giving me errors?
Example:
kbbkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kbbkbn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kbbkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kbbknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kbbknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kbnkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kbnknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kbnknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
knnknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkbn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkqb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkqn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkqn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrb.0.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrb.0.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrb.1.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrb.1.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrb.2.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrb.2.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrn.0.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrn.0.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrn.1.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrn.1.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrn.2.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrn.2.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrr.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrr.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkbn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkqn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrb.0.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrb.0.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrb.1.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrb.1.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrb.2.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrb.2.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrn.0.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrn.0.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrn.1.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrn.1.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrn.2.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrn.2.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrr.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrr.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkbn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkqb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkqb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkqn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkqn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkqq.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkqr.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkqr.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkrb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkrb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkrn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkrn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkrr.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkrr.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkbn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkqb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkqb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkqn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkqn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkqr.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkrb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkrb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkrn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkrn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkrr.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkrr.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
krbkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbkbn.0.nbb.emd: FAILED
krbkbn.0.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbkbn.1.nbb.emd: FAILED
krbkbn.1.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbkbn.2.nbb.emd: FAILED
krbkbn.2.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
krbknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbkrb.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbkrn.nbb.emd: FAILED
krbkrn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.0.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.0.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.1.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.1.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.2.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.2.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.3.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.3.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.4.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.4.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.5.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.5.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkrn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krrkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
krrkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
krrkbn.nbb.emd: FAILED
krrkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krrknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
krrknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krrkrb.nbb.emd: FAILED
krrkrb.nbw.emd: FAILED
krrkrn.nbb.emd: FAILED
krrkrn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krrkrr.nbw.emd: FAILED
I installed them in the Shredder GUI and tested them on a couple of positions both found the mate from the TB (checked the result against the online version and it was correct). The mates were not found without the 6-men so for those positions my 6men TBs are fine???
Does anyone know why md5sum is giving me errors?
Example:
kbbkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kbbkbn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kbbkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kbbknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kbbknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kbnkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kbnknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kbnknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
knnknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkbn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkqb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkqn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkqn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrb.0.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrb.0.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrb.1.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrb.1.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrb.2.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrb.2.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrn.0.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrn.0.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrn.1.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrn.1.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrn.2.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrn.2.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqbkrr.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqbkrr.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkbn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkqn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrb.0.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrb.0.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrb.1.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrb.1.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrb.2.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrb.2.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrn.0.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrn.0.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrn.1.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrn.1.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrn.2.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrn.2.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqnkrr.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqnkrr.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkbn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkqb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkqb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkqn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkqn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkqq.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkqr.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkqr.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkrb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkrb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkrn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkrn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqqkrr.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqqkrr.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkbn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkqb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkqb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkqn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkqn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkqr.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkrb.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkrb.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkrn.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkrn.nbw.emd: FAILED
kqrkrr.nbb.emd: FAILED
kqrkrr.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
krbkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbkbn.0.nbb.emd: FAILED
krbkbn.0.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbkbn.1.nbb.emd: FAILED
krbkbn.1.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbkbn.2.nbb.emd: FAILED
krbkbn.2.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
krbknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbkrb.nbw.emd: FAILED
krbkrn.nbb.emd: FAILED
krbkrn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.0.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.0.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.1.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.1.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.2.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.2.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.3.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.3.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.4.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.4.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.5.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnkbn.5.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
krnknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krnkrn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krrkbb.nbb.emd: FAILED
krrkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
krrkbn.nbb.emd: FAILED
krrkbn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krrknn.nbb.emd: FAILED
krrknn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krrkrb.nbb.emd: FAILED
krrkrb.nbw.emd: FAILED
krrkrn.nbb.emd: FAILED
krrkrn.nbw.emd: FAILED
krrkrr.nbw.emd: FAILED
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I have the following md5:Shaun Brewer wrote:Does anyone know why md5sum is giving me errors?
kbbkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED
10556067bcedc910abacf0c379fb28de kbbkbb.nbw.emd
You should download again that very short (18 MB) egtb kbbkbb.nbw.emd and try again the md5.
I just did, and it checked fine.
But I don't understand why Wilhelm does not work on your (Vista) system: if you send me the error messages, I will translate them for you.