Zugzwangs in 5-1(p) Chess

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Zugzwangs in 5-1(p) Chess

Postby guyhaw » Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:46 pm

Marc B has kindly advised me that there are no zugs in pawnless 5-1 chess but that there are 293 in 5-1p chess.

These appear in the endgames K(B/Q/R)NPPK and K(B/N/P/R)PPPK and are listed by endgame below, and are of course all 'Type 2' 'draw-win' zugs.

There are some 'sets of 58' zugs with the Knight on the wrong foot in K(B/Q/R)NPPK and KNPPPK, some wrong-corner Bishop zugs ... and some surprises - especially the DTC-deep zugs with DTC > 5.

The format is <endgame> <serial # within endgame> <DTConversion depth of Black loss> <position with wtm>.

If anyone can deploy their FEG 5-1p EGTs and come back to the board with some DTM depths of Black loss, that would be most useful as I'm just about to post lists of 6-man zugs and derived zug-stats on the ICGA website at www.icga.org . DTM depths opposite the largest DTC figures would be particularly useful. Thanks in advance.


***** KBNPPK
kbnppk 01 05 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/7N w
kbnppk 02 05 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/5N2 w
kbnppk 03 05 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/3N4 w
kbnppk 04 05 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/1N6 w
kbnppk 05 04 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/N7/8 w
kbnppk 06 04 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/6N1/8 w
kbnppk 07 04 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/4N3/8 w
kbnppk 08 04 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/2N5/8 w
kbnppk 09 04 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/7N/8/8 w
kbnppk 10 04 BK6/PP1k4/8/5N2/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 11 04 BK6/PP1k4/8/1N6/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 12 04 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/N7/8/8 w
kbnppk 13 04 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/N7 w
kbnppk 14 04 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/6N1 w
kbnppk 15 04 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/4N3 w
kbnppk 16 04 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/2N5 w
kbnppk 17 04 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/7N/8 w
kbnppk 18 04 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/5N2/8 w
kbnppk 19 04 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/3N4/8 w
kbnppk 20 04 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/1N6/8 w
kbnppk 21 04 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/6N1/8/8 w
kbnppk 22 04 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/4N3/8/8 w
kbnppk 23 04 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/2N5/8/8 w
kbnppk 24 04 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/7N/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 25 03 BKN5/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 26 03 BK6/PP1k4/N7/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 27 03 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/N7/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 28 03 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/5N2/8/8 w
kbnppk 29 03 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/3N4/8/8 w
kbnppk 30 03 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/1N6/8/8 w
kbnppk 31 03 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/6N1/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 32 03 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/4N3/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 33 03 BK6/PP1k4/8/8/2N5/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 34 03 BK6/PP1k4/8/7N/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 35 03 BK6/PP1k4/8/3N4/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 36 03 BK6/PP1k4/6N1/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 37 03 BK6/PP1k3N/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 38 03 BK4N1/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 39 03 BK2N3/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 40 03 BK1k4/PPN5/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 41 03 BK1k4/PP6/8/N7/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 42 03 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/5N2/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 43 03 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/3N4/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 44 03 BK1k4/PP6/8/8/1N6/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 45 03 BK1k4/PP6/8/6N1/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 46 03 BK1k4/PP6/7N/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 47 03 BK1k4/PP6/3N4/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 48 03 BK1k4/PP4N1/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 49 03 BK1k4/PP2N3/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 50 03 BK1k3N/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 51 02 BK6/PP1k4/4N3/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 52 02 BK6/PP1k4/2N5/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 53 02 BK6/PP1k1N2/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 54 02 BK1k4/PP6/8/4N3/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 55 02 BK1k4/PP6/8/2N5/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 56 02 BK1k4/PP6/5N2/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 57 02 BK1k4/PP6/1N6/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbnppk 58 02 BK1k1N2/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/8 w

***** KBPPPK
kbpppk 01 11 8/8/8/8/4Bk1P/3K3P/7P/8 w
kbpppk 02 06 8/B1k5/K7/P7/P7/P7/8/8 w
kbpppk 03 03 K7/8/1k6/1P6/BP6/1P6/8/8 w
kbpppk 04 02 1k6/8/KP6/BP6/1P6/8/8/8 w
kbpppk 05 02 K7/PBk5/P1P5/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbpppk 06 01 Bk6/1P6/K7/PP6/8/8/8/8 w
kbpppk 07 01 KBk5/P1P5/8/2P5/8/8/8/8 w
kbpppk 08 01 KBk5/P1P5/8/4P3/8/8/8/8 w
kbpppk 09 01 KBk5/P1P5/P7/8/8/8/8/8 w
kbpppk 10 00 K1k5/B1P5/2P5/2P5/8/8/8/8 w
kbpppk 11 00 kB6/8/KP6/PP6/8/8/8/8 w

***** KNPPPK
knpppk 01 05 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/8/8/8/7N w
knpppk 02 05 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/8/8/7N/8 w
knpppk 03 05 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/8/8/8/2N5 w
knpppk 04 05 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/8/8/8/4N3 w
knpppk 05 05 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/8/8/8/6N1 w
knpppk 06 05 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/8/8/8/N7 w
knpppk 07 04 K1k5/P6N/P7/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 08 04 K1k5/P7/P7/P6N/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 09 04 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/6N1/8/8/8 w
knpppk 10 04 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/8/1N6/8/8 w
knpppk 11 04 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/8/3N4/8/8 w
knpppk 12 04 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/8/5N2/8/8 w
knpppk 13 04 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/8/7N/8/8 w
knpppk 14 04 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/8/8/2N5/8 w
knpppk 15 04 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/8/8/4N3/8 w
knpppk 16 04 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/8/8/6N1/8 w
knpppk 17 04 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/8/8/8/1N6 w
knpppk 18 04 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/8/8/8/3N4 w
knpppk 19 04 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/8/8/8/5N2 w
knpppk 20 04 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/8/8/N7/8 w
knpppk 21 04 K6N/P1k5/P7/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 22 04 K7/P1k5/P6N/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 23 04 K7/P1k5/P7/P3N3/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 24 04 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/7N/8/8/8 w
knpppk 25 04 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/8/6N1/8/8 w
knpppk 26 04 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/8/8/1N6/8 w
knpppk 27 04 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/8/8/3N4/8 w
knpppk 28 04 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/8/8/5N2/8 w
knpppk 29 04 KN6/P1k5/P7/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 30 03 K1k3N1/P7/P7/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 31 03 K1k5/P2N4/P7/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 32 03 K1k5/P4N2/P7/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 33 03 K1k5/P7/P1N5/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 34 03 K1k5/P7/P5N1/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 35 03 K1k5/P7/P7/P4N2/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 36 03 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/2N5/8/8/8 w
knpppk 37 03 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/4N3/8/8/8 w
knpppk 38 03 K1k5/P7/P7/P7/N7/8/8/8 w
knpppk 39 03 K1k5/PN6/P7/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 40 03 K2N4/P1k5/P7/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 41 03 K4N2/P1k5/P7/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 42 03 K7/P1k3N1/P7/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 43 03 K7/P1k5/P4N2/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 44 03 K7/P1k5/P7/P1N5/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 45 03 K7/P1k5/P7/P5N1/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 46 03 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/1N6/8/8/8 w
knpppk 47 03 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/3N4/8/8/8 w
knpppk 48 03 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/5N2/8/8/8 w
knpppk 49 03 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/8/2N5/8/8 w
knpppk 50 03 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/8/4N3/8/8 w
knpppk 51 03 K7/P1k5/P7/P7/8/N7/8/8 w
knpppk 52 02 K1k1N3/P1P5/P7/8/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 53 02 K1k1N3/P7/P7/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 54 02 K1k3N1/P1P5/P7/8/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 55 02 K1k5/P1P2N2/P7/8/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 56 02 K1k5/P1P4N/P7/8/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 57 02 K1k5/P1P5/P1N5/8/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 58 02 K1k5/P1P5/P3N3/8/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 59 02 K1k5/P1P5/P5N1/8/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 60 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/1N6/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 61 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/3N4/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 62 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/5N2/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 63 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/7N/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 64 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/2N5/8/8/8 w
knpppk 65 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/4N3/8/8/8 w
knpppk 66 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/6N1/8/8/8 w
knpppk 67 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/8/1N6/8/8 w
knpppk 68 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/8/3N4/8/8 w
knpppk 69 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/8/5N2/8/8 w
knpppk 70 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/8/7N/8/8 w
knpppk 71 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/8/8/2N5/8 w
knpppk 72 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/8/8/4N3/8 w
knpppk 73 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/8/8/6N1/8 w
knpppk 74 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/8/8/8/1N6 w
knpppk 75 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/8/8/8/3N4 w
knpppk 76 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/8/8/8/5N2 w
knpppk 77 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/8/8/8/7N w
knpppk 78 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/8/8/N7/8 w
knpppk 79 02 K1k5/P1P5/P7/8/N7/8/8/8 w
knpppk 80 02 K1k5/P7/P3N3/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 81 02 K1k5/P7/P7/P2N4/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 82 02 K1k5/P7/P7/PN6/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 83 02 K1k5/PNP5/P7/8/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 84 02 K7/P1k1N3/P7/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 85 02 K7/P1k5/P2N4/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 86 02 K7/P1k5/PN6/P7/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 87 00 1k6/1PN5/K7/PP6/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 88 00 K1k5/P1PN4/P7/8/8/8/8/8 w
knpppk 89 00 kN6/8/KP6/PP6/8/8/8/8 w

***** KPPPPK
kppppk 01 06 8/8/8/1k6/1P6/KP6/PP6/8 w
kppppk 02 04 8/8/1k6/1P6/KP6/1P6/1P6/8 w
kppppk 03 04 8/8/1k6/1P6/KP6/PP6/8/8 w
kppppk 04 04 K1k5/8/P1P5/P7/P7/8/8/8 w
kppppk 05 03 8/K1k5/P1P5/P7/P7/8/8/8 w
kppppk 06 02 1k6/1P6/K7/P7/P7/P7/8/8 w
kppppk 07 02 2k5/2P5/3K4/P7/P7/P7/8/8 w
kppppk 08 02 8/1k6/1P6/KP6/1P6/1P6/8/8 w
kppppk 09 02 8/1k6/1P6/KP6/PP6/8/8/8 w
kppppk 10 02 k7/8/KP6/PP6/1P6/8/8/8 w
kppppk 11 02 k7/8/KP6/PP6/P7/8/8/8 w
kppppk 12 01 1k6/1P6/K7/PP1P4/8/8/8/8 w
kppppk 13 01 1k6/1P6/K7/PP6/1P6/8/8/8 w
kppppk 14 01 1k6/1P6/K7/PP6/P7/8/8/8 w
kppppk 15 00 K1k5/2P5/P1P5/P7/8/8/8/8 w
kppppk 16 00 K1k5/P1P5/2P5/1P6/8/8/8/8 w
kppppk 17 00 K1k5/P1P5/2P5/3P4/8/8/8/8 w

***** KQNPPK
kqnppk 01 05 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/1N6 w
kqnppk 02 05 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/3N4 w
kqnppk 03 05 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/5N2 w
kqnppk 04 05 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/7N w
kqnppk 05 04 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/7N/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 06 04 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/2N5/8/8 w
kqnppk 07 04 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/4N3/8/8 w
kqnppk 08 04 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/6N1/8/8 w
kqnppk 09 04 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/1N6/8 w
kqnppk 10 04 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/3N4/8 w
kqnppk 11 04 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/5N2/8 w
kqnppk 12 04 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/7N/8 w
kqnppk 13 04 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/2N5 w
kqnppk 14 04 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/4N3 w
kqnppk 15 04 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/6N1 w
kqnppk 16 04 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/N7 w
kqnppk 17 04 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/N7/8/8 w
kqnppk 18 04 QK6/PP1k4/8/1N6/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 19 04 QK6/PP1k4/8/5N2/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 20 04 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/7N/8/8 w
kqnppk 21 04 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/2N5/8 w
kqnppk 22 04 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/4N3/8 w
kqnppk 23 04 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/6N1/8 w
kqnppk 24 04 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/N7/8 w
kqnppk 25 03 QK1k3N/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 26 03 QK1k4/PP2N3/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 27 03 QK1k4/PP4N1/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 28 03 QK1k4/PP6/3N4/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 29 03 QK1k4/PP6/7N/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 30 03 QK1k4/PP6/8/6N1/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 31 03 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/1N6/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 32 03 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/3N4/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 33 03 QK1k4/PP6/8/8/5N2/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 34 03 QK1k4/PP6/8/N7/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 35 03 QK1k4/PPN5/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 36 03 QK2N3/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 37 03 QK4N1/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 38 03 QK6/PP1k3N/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 39 03 QK6/PP1k4/6N1/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 40 03 QK6/PP1k4/8/3N4/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 41 03 QK6/PP1k4/8/7N/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 42 03 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/2N5/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 43 03 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/4N3/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 44 03 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/6N1/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 45 03 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/1N6/8/8 w
kqnppk 46 03 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/3N4/8/8 w
kqnppk 47 03 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/5N2/8/8 w
kqnppk 48 03 QK6/PP1k4/8/8/N7/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 49 03 QK6/PP1k4/N7/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 50 03 QKN5/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 51 02 QK1k1N2/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 52 02 QK1k4/PP6/1N6/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 53 02 QK1k4/PP6/5N2/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 54 02 QK1k4/PP6/8/2N5/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 55 02 QK1k4/PP6/8/4N3/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 56 02 QK6/PP1k1N2/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 57 02 QK6/PP1k4/2N5/8/8/8/8/8 w
kqnppk 58 02 QK6/PP1k4/4N3/8/8/8/8/8 w

***** KRNPPK
krnppk 01 05 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/1N6 w
krnppk 02 05 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/3N4 w
krnppk 03 05 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/5N2 w
krnppk 04 05 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/7N w
krnppk 05 04 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/7N/8/8/8 w
krnppk 06 04 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/2N5/8/8 w
krnppk 07 04 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/4N3/8/8 w
krnppk 08 04 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/6N1/8/8 w
krnppk 09 04 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/1N6/8 w
krnppk 10 04 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/3N4/8 w
krnppk 11 04 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/5N2/8 w
krnppk 12 04 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/7N/8 w
krnppk 13 04 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/2N5 w
krnppk 14 04 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/4N3 w
krnppk 15 04 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/6N1 w
krnppk 16 04 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/N7 w
krnppk 17 04 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/8/N7/8/8 w
krnppk 18 04 RK6/PP1k4/8/1N6/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 19 04 RK6/PP1k4/8/5N2/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 20 04 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/7N/8/8 w
krnppk 21 04 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/2N5/8 w
krnppk 22 04 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/4N3/8 w
krnppk 23 04 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/6N1/8 w
krnppk 24 04 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/N7/8 w
krnppk 25 03 RK1k3N/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 26 03 RK1k4/PP2N3/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 27 03 RK1k4/PP4N1/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 28 03 RK1k4/PP6/3N4/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 29 03 RK1k4/PP6/7N/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 30 03 RK1k4/PP6/8/6N1/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 31 03 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/1N6/8/8/8 w
krnppk 32 03 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/3N4/8/8/8 w
krnppk 33 03 RK1k4/PP6/8/8/5N2/8/8/8 w
krnppk 34 03 RK1k4/PP6/8/N7/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 35 03 RK1k4/PPN5/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 36 03 RK2N3/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 37 03 RK4N1/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 38 03 RK6/PP1k3N/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 39 03 RK6/PP1k4/6N1/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 40 03 RK6/PP1k4/8/3N4/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 41 03 RK6/PP1k4/8/7N/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 42 03 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/2N5/8/8/8 w
krnppk 43 03 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/4N3/8/8/8 w
krnppk 44 03 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/6N1/8/8/8 w
krnppk 45 03 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/1N6/8/8 w
krnppk 46 03 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/3N4/8/8 w
krnppk 47 03 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/8/5N2/8/8 w
krnppk 48 03 RK6/PP1k4/8/8/N7/8/8/8 w
krnppk 49 03 RK6/PP1k4/N7/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 50 03 RKN5/PP1k4/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 51 02 RK1k1N2/PP6/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 52 02 RK1k4/PP6/1N6/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 53 02 RK1k4/PP6/5N2/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 54 02 RK1k4/PP6/8/2N5/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 55 02 RK1k4/PP6/8/4N3/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 56 02 RK6/PP1k1N2/8/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 57 02 RK6/PP1k4/2N5/8/8/8/8/8 w
krnppk 58 02 RK6/PP1k4/4N3/8/8/8/8/8 w

***** KRPPPK
krpppk 01 02 k7/8/KP6/RP6/P7/8/8/8 w
krpppk 02 01 1k6/1P6/K7/RP6/P7/8/8/8 w

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Re: Zugzwangs in 5-1(p) Chess

Postby Les » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:15 am

Guyhaw,

Does this thread imply that the 6 piece egtb of 5-1 pawn and no pawns have been calculated. The reason I am asking is that I am looking for the tbs stat files for the entire set. Do you or know anyone who has it?

Thanks,

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Re: Zugzwangs in 5-1(p) Chess

Postby guyhaw » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:09 pm

Les,

I should have said on Wednesday, and meant to say, that Marc B obviously found the 5-1p zugs and their 'DTC' Depths to Conversion by trawlling EGTs generated by Yakov Konoval's program. FEG generates EGTs to the DTMate metric, so those could not have been the ones used.

I don't know what form of statistics Marc B and Yakov Konoval keep with regard to their EGTs: I don't know what they do about the 'equivalence' of effectively-equal positions for example.

My apologies to Yakov and Marc for not making that clear: I should have double-checked what I wrote for completeness, especially as I was quite ill at the time.

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