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How do I get the FEN out of the diagram?
(I can see it when I put the mouse in the diagram, but I cannot copy it...)

In the CCC-Forum, I came upon this KNNKP position: 8/k7/8/4Kn2/8/P7/8/1n6 b - - 01 The Nalimov DTM show this is a Mate-in-115, and this shortest Mate-in-115 is indeed legal by the 50-move rule (White pushes his Pawn after less than 50 moves) Is it possible to search, starting from this given positio...

Ed Trice wrote:...endgames for checkers...

Hi Ed,
Did you have contacts with Jonathan Schaeffer, or is your work on the subject completely independent?

Ed Trice wrote:I also have 2 separate 5.0 GHz Intel Gulftowns (the i7-980X with 6 cores each) with 6 GB of RAM and 4.5 TB of storage (each).

Congratulations!

But I wonder if the existing TBGEN for the TB6 generation uses multicore.

kronsteen wrote:if chess were fully solved, the resulting position would be either a win for White, or a draw.

That's what most people "think", but it cannot be proven today it isn't a win for Black (zugzwang, ...)

lordali wrote:Flash AI Chess engine

Do you mean that?...
http://www.flash-games.fr/Flash-Chess-3634.html

(that's all I could find on Google )

rivenburg wrote: Total size after compression=15.19728 GB

Wasn't it supposed to be under 8GB (for all 3-4-5-man)?

jshriver wrote:What was the total size for the 3-4-5 set as is (not compressed) .gtb files.Josh

???
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4675&sid=3c97109ff9 ... 998#p48446

Great achievement!!!
I am waiting for the 5x5 minichess (with all pieces on 1st rank)

Can you give us a quick definition of your 3x4 chess?
And what is the result: value of the game (1, 1/2, 0?)

You are being overly pessimistic, Kirill !...

I am using a 1.5 TB eSATA Seagate disk, in a "FlatDock" box with USB and eSATA access (I use the USB access).
It is quiet and heats up very little.

I bought the package (140 euros) at MacWay and have no problems with it (I knock on wood...).

Have you tried with a new download of kbbkbb.nbw.emd, and checksum ? C:\Recup_CPQ\Utils\Checksum>md5 kbbkbb.nbw.emd 10556067BCEDC910ABACF0C379FB28DE kbbkbb.nbw.emd to be compared with all-33.md5 from http://tablebases.sesse.net/3+3/ : 10556067bcedc910abacf0c379fb28de kbbkbb.nbw.emd For Wilhelm, this...

Does anyone know why md5sum is giving me errors? kbbkbb.nbw.emd: FAILED I have the following md5: 10556067bcedc910abacf0c379fb28de kbbkbb.nbw.emd You should download again that very short (18 MB) egtb kbbkbb.nbw.emd and try again the md5. I just did, and it checked fine. But I don't understand why ...

Shaun Brewer wrote:What is the easiest way to verify the 6 men TB's?

I did it with Wilhelm
No problem. The md5 are included in the program.

Besides, anybody really interested in EGTBs should have Wilhelm

Oded Ross wrote:

Kirill Kryukov wrote:

guyhaw wrote:spreadsheet at http://www.icg.org

The excel file you made containing both their works is superb. I often refer to it.

icg.org now sends you to... International Crisis Group

mike27 wrote:http://158.250.18.123:4777/download/TB6 ... ckBeta.exe
http://www.computerskak.dk/

Victor's http://158... does not work

Concerning http://www.computerskak.dk/ are you saying that the checking is included in the Frenzee program?

mbourzut wrote:Attached are ...-Marc

Bonjour Marc,
A friend of mine (in France) has produced the Nalimov-like DTM50 files (giving legal mates by the 50-move rule) for knnkp (and knnkq).
Have you (or friend) produced something like that? We would be interested in comparing

Any idea why http://kirr.homeunix.org/... is not working any longer (at least for me...)?

But http://kirill-kryukov.com/... seems to be the good replacement!

Vegetable man, you're the Champion of the World...

Moderator of this Forum: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vegan wrote:You missed this mate?

Better drop a subject where you only can utter a lame joke...
Go back eating your beans!

gambit3 wrote:

I want to know, in a theoretical way, how to get the shortest legal mate.

at last, right question! and from the formulation of it, already answered two different ways.

Please tell me where...

Vegan wrote:http://contract-developer.dyndns.biz/

What are those crazy prices?...

Are you trying to make indecent money on us?

Better stick to your vegetables...

...this white move is critical as it forces the pawn to move ... Thanks again, gambit3, but I don't expect from the mathematician you are, a chess lesson... :D I want to know, in a theoretical way, how to get the shortest legal mate. What do I need : DTM, DTZ50, ... any other table? and how do I us...

gambit3 wrote:unfortunately for ...

Thanks for your interest, gambit3, but I asked a clear question (I think...) so your ramblings don't help much!

My question is: how is it possible to obtain a Nalimov-type EGTB (say, for 5-men) which takes into account the 50-move rule? I am not sure at all that the combination of the DTM and DTZ50 tables are sufficient to reach that goal. A friend of mine is trying to program such an EGTB, starting with knnk...

Dhanish wrote:Is this correct? Then how is it being used in Scid and Crafty?

Toga is Open Source, Crafty is not.

See http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php